The Formovie Theater is a Digital Light Processing (DLP) projector using a triple laser light source that displays 2,800 lumens of brightness and 107% of the BT.2020 color gamut.
This projector displays up to a 150-inch max 4K image with a native contrast of 3,000:1 in HDR mode. To match the Formovie Theater's big picture, the company has partnered with Bowers & Wilkins to provide big sound with a built-in Dolby Atmos sound system.
The Formovie Theater can be purchased from the company's website and authorized resellers for an MSRP of $3,499.
OVERVIEW
Formovie Theater Specs
Price
$3499
Technology
DLP w/ XPR (0.47” Single-Chip DMD)
Native Resolution
1920x1080x4
Brightness (Manufacturer Claim)
2800 ANSI Lumens
Contrast
3,000:1
Zoom Lens Ratio
Fixed
Lens Shift
No
Lamp Life
Weight
21.6
Warranty
Formovie Technology is a joint venture between Apotronics, the maker of the projection industry's most popular laser light source technologies, and Xiaomi (SHA-O-mee) Technology. Based in China, Xiaomi is one of the world's largest technology manufacturers.
The world's most adopted projector laser technology
Formovie projection products include ALPD laser imaging technology. ALPD lasers are used in more movie theater projectors worldwide than any other brand. Chances are, the last movie you saw at a theater was shown on a projector using an ALPD laser light source.
The Formovie Theater is an Ultra-Short-Throw (UST) projector, also called a Laser TV, and is capable of being placed just inches away from the screen. Having the projector close to the screen eliminates the risk of someone blocking the image by walking between the projector and the screen. UST projectors also remove the need for ceiling mounting and long wire runs between sources and the video projector. With massive improvements in picture quality and price decreases, Laser TV projectors are now starting to replace the living room TV.
I've reviewed Formovie portable projectors in the past; read my full review of the Wemax Dice which was designed and produced by Formovie.
Honestly, I was surprised that the company had introduced a Laser TV projector and that it won first place at the 2022 Ultra Short Throw Laser TV Showdown organized by projectorscreens.com.
The Formovie Theater beat thirteen other Ultra-Short-Throw projectors to take first place in the competition. I want to thank Brian at projectorscreen.com for supplying the Formovie Theater sample I'm using to write this review.
Let's take a closer look at what you get with this award-winning Ultra-Short-Throw projector.
The Formovie Theater uses a Texas Instruments 0.47 Digital Micromirror Device (DMD) and an Appotronics ALPD 4.0 RGB+ triple laser light source. The estimated light source life at full output is a competitive 20,000 hours. This laser light source provides a whopping 2,800 lumens of brightness which should mean that this projector does not need a completely dark room to produce a good picture. I'll put this to the test in the PERFORMANCE-BRIGHTNESS section of this review.
Formovie rates the native contrast of their projector as 3,000:1. Combining this native contrast with the Formovie's ability to detect and process Dolby Vision encoded signals should deliver a true-to-life viewing experience. Think of it this way, HDR10 is currently the most affordable and frequently used HDR format, while Dolby Vision is a premium option.
The Formovie Theater can project a screen size of up to 150 inches which is impressive since most Laser TV projectors max out at 120 inches.
When it comes to sound, Formovie says that it wanted to build a sound system for people who love music. Formovie partnered with Bowers & Wilkins to design the projector's 30-watt Dolby Atmos sound system to achieve their goal.
The Formovie Theater uses a certified version of Android TV 11 as the projector's operating system. Google Play and Chromecast compatibility provide users with a smooth big-screen entertainment experience. Android TV 11 supports apps like Disney+, HBO, Hulu, and YouTube. Unfortunately, this projector does not natively support Netflix.
For this review, I used a variety of sources, including an Apple TV 4K, a 4K Blu-ray player, and a computer. I projected onto a 100-inch EliteAmbient Light Rejecting (ALR) screen.
The Formovie Theater is not purpose-built for gaming but provides users with a GAMING mode. Casual gaming performance is excellent on this projector, and even for some, first-person shooters play well. This projector is not a serious gamers display where input lag ratings of 16 ms or lower are required, but it does the job for casual gamers.
The Formovie Theater features three HDMI 2.1 inputs. It supports Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM), which automatically allows a game console, PC, or other devices to switch to a low-latency, low-lag mode for gaming. ALLM could benefit other uses, such as karaoke and video conferencing. The projector also supports Motion Estimation and Motion Compensation (MEMC). MEMC is a motion smoothing technology that artificially adds frames to a video with a low frame rate so that it has a higher frame rate and gives the image a smooth effect.
The Formovie Theater sells for an MSRP of $3,499, which makes it competitively priced with other similarly specced Ultra-Short-Throw/Laser TV products.
HIGHLIGHTS
4K image resolution and quality on-screen
Appotronics ALPD 4.0 triple laser light engine
The Tri-color Laser light engine can display 107% of the BT.2020 color gamut.
ALLM detects gaming devices and switches to the projectors GAMING mode
Dolby Atmos sound by Bowers & Wilkins
Offers specular artifacts suppression technology
Android TV 11 integration
Built-in Far-field voice technology
Supports various Google technologies like Google Smart Home and Chromecast
Hardware
CHASSIS
The Formovie Theater uses a typical design for many Ultra-Short-Throw projectors consisting of a rectangular chassis with well-defined edges and a cloth-covered front. There are no rounded surfaces on this projector. The chassis is primarily molded polycarbonate with a two-tone gray and charcoal paint job.
The design is consistent with other UST projectors and should blend into most living spaces.
The Formovie Theater measures 21.7" W × 13.7" D × 4.2" H (550 × 349.2 × 107.5 mm) and weighs 21.6 lbs. (9.8 kg). So how does this compare to the current crop of ultra-short-throw projectors? It's smaller and lighter than the new Epson LS800 but then again, what UST isn't? This projector is pretty much in the same size and weight ballpark as most of its major 4K UST competitors.
The Formovie Theater has three feet, with the front two adjustable via wheels on each side of the projector. I like this design because it makes adjusting them more manageable than lifting the projector to spin the legs to raise or lower them.
INPUTS AND CONNECTIONS
The input and connections panel is on the projector's rear. All the inputs and connections are in a straight line, making it easy to determine the type of connector by touch. I know it's a small thing, but it's often the little things that make a difference. And speaking of little things, there is not an easily accessible USB input on either the front or sides of the projector. Also, the USB Type-A inputs only support the lower data rate of USB 2.0.
The Formovie Theater offers Wi-Fi 6 for secure high-speed wireless networking. Unfortunately, the Wi-Fi connection disappeared the second time I turned the projector on. The projector could not even see my router until I unplugged it, let it sit for about ten seconds, and then plugged it back in. A complete reboot restored Wi-Fi. The next time I shut the projector off and turned it back on, the same thing happened. The projector does come with an RJ45 network connector for a direct connection to a modem or router. Unfortunately, making a wired connection to a router or modem is not always possible. Formovie needs to fix this Wi-Fi issue. What's the point of having Android TV as the operating system if the projector cannot connect to the internet?
The HDMI connections are 2.1 with support for eARC and ALLM functionality. Despite supporting HDMI 2.1, this projector can only display 1080p or 4K games at a maximum of 60 fps.
Although Formovie calls this projector a Laser TV, there is no coaxial connector or built-in tuner.
The projector also does not support 3D functionality or WiSA wireless speaker connectivity.
LENS
The included lens is a typical fixed focal length ultra-short-throw lens with a throw distance of 1.4' - 2.5' and is rated by Formovie to display an image from 80 to 150 inches.
The Formovie Theater has lens issues. During my initial setup, when I was testing the range of the focus adjustments, a blue/green streak from the center of the screen to the top right was visible. It did clear up, but it should never have been there.
I found the projected image to be softer than I prefer when projecting onto a screen larger than 100 inches. Focus marginally improves as the projector warms up, but more is needed, especially compared to other ultra-short-throw projectors I've reviewed in the same price range.
In researching my focus issues, I've found blog posts describing users opening the projector to adjust the focus manually. Even though it might work to solve the soft focus, I can't think of a worse idea. At best, doing this will void your warranty, and at worst, you could seriously damage the projector or yourself. Could this issue be addressed in a firmware update by Formovie? I don't know.
MENUS
The Formovie Theater uses Android TV 11 as its operating system. Android 11 is an excellent choice, as most people have used at least one or more Android devices. The OS should look comfortably familiar and be easy for the average consumer to use.
Formovie provides users with precise adjustments for image and sound options allowing this projector to be professionally calibrated, resulting in the best picture it can produce.
When using an external device like an Apple TV, 4K Blu-ray, or PC, the Formovie has inserted an additional layer of menus that are not Android TV and are likely leftovers from the Chinese OS. Users must use two visual and navigation steps to adjust the projector's picture, sound, and settings depending on the input.
The remote control has a single button that takes the user to shortcuts in a third interface for Focus, Settings, Keystone, Inputs, and an electronic user manual.
The Formovie Theater remote is made of plastic and is similar to other Android TV-based devices. It is easy to operate, and most buttons have a placement similar to other Android TV remotes. As mentioned in the HARDWARE-MENU section, Formovie has added a shortcut button to a software interface that takes you to Focus, Settings, Keystone, and Inputs. I prefer to have some of these as direct access buttons on the remote.
The remote is not backlit.
According to the Formovie support website, this projector does not support any discrete Infrared (IR) controls such as power and input selection; it only supports Bluetooth remote control.
PERFORMANCE
After setting basic credentials and preparing to square the projector to the screen, I noticed a faint blue-green line going from the center of the screen to the upper right corner. This line faded as the projector warmed up, but this did not fill me with great confidence. This type of artifact should not ever be visible.
COLOR
The Formovie Theater UST projector has already been put through the wringer and won the 2022 projectorscreen.com sponsored shootout in the Ultra-Short-Throw category.
I'm going to start with how the projector's preset picture modes perform out-of-the-box.
In SDR mode, there are a total of seven preset picture modes.
Regarding best performance out-of-the-box with SDR content, the MOVIE mode was my preferred choice in my space in total darkness. The MOVIE mode provides accurate colors, skin tones, and details in the dark areas of the image. For rooms with more ambient light, I recommend the STANDARD mode or playing around with the USER mode to adjust the image to your preference.
In HDR mode, the presets are the same, although HDR content dials down the overall color saturation, creating a more natural-looking picture. My recommendation for the best modes when watching movies are the same as above. MOVIE mode for watching content in the dark. STANDARD or USER modes when watching content with some ambient light present.
The truth is that you will have to play around with the preset you choose based on your room and the content you are watching. Presets such as GAME and CHILD were excellent choices for gaming and watching animation.
DOLBY VISION content gives users a choice between two modes, DOLBY VISION BRIGHT and DOLBY VISION DARK. These modes reduce the projector's brightness considerably, revealing much more detail.
VIVID and SPORTS modes are bright. These modes compensate for rooms with much higher levels of uncontrolled ambient light. In these modes, color accuracy and dark level detail drop significantly but allow the projector to display decent-looking color in bright environments.
The Formovie Theater's built-in preset picture modes look excellent from the factory. However, to get the best color performance, you need to calibrate the projector professionally (my recommendation). Professional calibration combined with the Dolby Vision and HDR modes will take this projector's performance to the next level.
Since your room and screen material has a major impact on the overall picture, we don’t recommend using someone else calibration adjustments. If your room is brighter/darker or your walls are a different color, copying someone else results can cause more harm than good. However, below are the before and after calibration results in our space.
We used Portrait DisplaysCalman color calibration software to test, measure, and calibrate the Formovie Theater.
Pre-Calibration Color Tracking and Grayscale
In the MOVIE picture mode, the RGB balance had an average DeltaE of just 3.55, which is very good. The color temperature measured 6521K, which was just a few degrees off my target of 6500K. The measured Gamma was 2.16, close to my target of 2.2.
However, the projector color tracking definitely benefits from CMS adjustment. The Formovie Theater has an RGB laser light source that can reproduce an extremely wide color gamut. This is beneficial when viewing HDR material master in either DCI-P3 or BT.2020.
However, when viewing content captured in Rec709, bright colors were over-saturated. This, combined with massive Hue shifts, resulted in a high Average Color Tracking error.
The good news is that the Formovie includes a full set of color and CMS adjustments to improve the projector's color tracking.
Picture Mode: MOVIE
Gamma: 2.16
Color Temperature: 6521K
Average Grayscale dE: 3.55
Average Color Tracking dE: 7.14
Post-Calibration Color Tracking and Grayscale
For viewing SDR, we calibrated the MOVIE picture preset. The default COLOR TEMP setting of Warm was very close to 6500K, so we just had to made some quick adjustments to the WHITE BALANCE to produce an outstanding Grayscale. I decreased both the RED GAIN and the BLUE GAIN and reduced the BLUE Offset slightly.
The Formovie Theater offers 11-Point White Balance Correction but the RGB Balance was so good after 2 point adjustment I didn't feel the need to utilize it.
Once the BRIGHTNESS was adjusted, the Formovie Theater was close to my gamma target was 2.2, so I left the projector's GAMMA set to the Middle option.
It appears that when the COLOR SPACE option is set to the default of AUTO, the projector still uses its native color Space of BT.2020 and does not automatically down-convert when viewing Rec.709 content. To prevent oversaturated Rec709 colors, this setting needs to be switched to ON, which also accurately displays DCI-P3 and BT.2020.
Picture Mode: MOVIE
Gamma: 2.21
Color Temperature: 6509K
Average Grayscale dE: 1.13
Average Color Tracking dE: 2.1
Delta E measurement of 3 or less is considered ‘Excellent’ and imperceptible by the human eye. Even before calibration, the Formovie Theater had an average Grayscale dE of 3.55, which is good. After calibration, the projector had a grayscale average dE of 1.13, which is outstanding.
An average pre-calibration Color Tracking dE of 7.14 was due to hue shifts and over-saturated colors. Using the projector's COLOR TUNER (CMS) adjustments the dE can be reduced to around 2. Note that the settings adjustments per input are independent so desired settings must be manually copied to another input.
Like most RGB laser-equipped projectors, the Formovie Theater can reproduce up to 107% of BT.2020. While this much color is overkill when viewing SDR or Rec709 material, it really makes HDR content rich and vibrant.
When set to MOVIE (HDR10) picture mode, the projector's grayscale average DeltaE was just 3, which was very good. The unit's RGB balance was quickly improved using the projector's 2point Grayscale adjustments (GAIN / OFFSET)
Note the picture adjustments for both HDR10 and Dolby Vision picture modes are independent of SDR settings. Like the SDR the settings adjustments per input are independent so desired settings must be manually copied to another input.
Pre/Post HDR Two Point White Balance
HDR measurements were great after calibrating SDR
While we took the time to calibrate the Formovie Theater most customers looking at Laser TVs do not have their projectors professionally calibrated.
If you want to make BRIGHTNESS, CONTRAST, and SHARPNESS adjustments to optimize your projector for your room, there are several free test patterns available on Murideo’s website and .YouTube channel. Check out our YouTube video on utilizing several of these test patterns called Optimize The Image of a Projector or TV Using Free Murideo Test Patterns. Murideo also has written instructions located under the resource section of its website.
While there were some issues with the projector color tracking out of the box, the projector's accurate grayscale and color temperature resulted in one of the best-looking pictures I have seen from a Laser TV.
BRIGHTNESS
The Formovie Theater has a rated maximum brightness of 2,800 ANSI lumens. To measure its max brightness, I set the projector to STANDARD mode (the brightest mode) and increased the projector's LASER LIGHT SETTING to its maximum. I then took 3-4 readings about 15-20% out from the center of the lens.
The Formovie Theater measured 2,650 ANSI lumens, 150 lumens less than Formovie's rating but close enough to the manufacturer's rated brightness of 2,800 lumens. The Formovie Theater is more than bright enough for viewing SDR content on a 120" screen in a room with some light or HDR content on a 150" screen in a dark room.
The chart below shows my calculated brightness rating for each of the projector's out-of-the-box preset picture modes.
Preset Picture Mode
Brightness
STANDARD
2,650 ANSI Lumens
VIVID
2,578 ANSI Lumens
SPORT
2,572 ANSI Lumens
MOVIE
2,068 ANSI Lumens
GAME
2,516 ANSI Lumens
CHILD
2,231 ANSI Lumens
USER
2,585 ANSI Lumens
BLACK LEVEL AND SHADOW DETAIL
The Formovie Theater is bright for an RGB DLP projector and can produce decent black levels with visible details.
One of the biggest reasons this projector garners so much praise is its black-level performance. Better black-level performance results in higher contrast which is beneficial when watching movies in a darkened theater or a room with some uncontrolled ambient light sources. I found the black level and shadow performance on the Formovie Theater better than most UST projectors I've reviewed in the past.
The Formovie Theater black levels and shadow details looked like those on much more expensive DLP projectors that use a larger 0.65 Digital Micromirror Device (DMD) rather than the 0.47 DMD used in this projector.
You will sacrifice brightness if you want those deep inky blacks you find on Sony or JVC LCOS projectors. Shadow detail is going to be outside the LCOS range. However, if you are willing to strike a balance between inky blacks and lighter blacks with better detail, the Formovie is more capable than many other Ultra-Short-Throw DLP projectors in this price range.
SDR, HDR, AND DOLBY VISION
Dolby Vision is an advanced form of High Dynamic Range (HDR) where brightness, color, and contrast levels should be better than those produced by projectors that only support HDR10.
The engineers over at Dolby have certified that this projector, at a minimum, meets their stringent requirements for a certified Dolby Vision device.
Out-of-the-box, Dolby Vision settings provided accurate-looking colors, with a lot of detail in the dark and bright sections of the displayed image. The Dolby Vision content creators program dynamic metadata frame-by-frame to get this level of shadow detail with color accuracy.
The Formovie's HDR performance also looked outstanding. On this projector, HDR video content is more saturated than I'm used to seeing.
AUDIO PERFORMANCE
Partnering with an audio company is becoming increasingly popular on specialty displays such as gaming and Ultra-Short-Throw projectors. For example, BenQ partners with treVolo on their X series gaming projectors, Hisense is making USTs with sound by Harmon Kardon, and even Epson has gotten on the bandwagon and partnered with Yamaha for the sound systems on their 2022 LS series projectors. I've reviewed each of these Ultra-Short-Throw projectors and others without a sound system partnership. They've all sounded good to me for what they are. Most of these Ultra-Short-Throw projectors offer a sound system that performs similarly to lower-priced sound bars or high-performance Bluetooth speakers. I expected the same from the Formovie Theater. I was wrong.
Bowers & Wilkins (B&W) put some effort into the development of this partnership. B&W has gotten much more from this projector's built-in sound system than a typical sound bar. There is a decent amount of mid-bass, at least enough to add a little roar to the party. I've read in more than a few places that the audio on the projector was not dynamic with a minimal sound stage, and that was true for me until I started playing around with the projector's audio settings. Out-of-the-box, the Formovie Theater has a few Digital Signal Processing (DSP) settings designed to make content with a limited sound mix perform better. I recommend turning anything like that off when watching something with a dedicated surround track, especially anything that can leverage the projector's Dolby Atmos capabilities. Movies such as Mad Max: Fury Road, Blade Runner: 2049, or the latest James Bond: No Time To Die puts you in the middle of the action with sound effects seemingly coming from all around the room. Even at louder volumes, the sound remained distortion free. The dialog was not lost, remaining audible in most cases. Should you have any content where the actor's voices are hard to hear, the projector has a setting to clarify dialog. The bottom line is that If you don't have an external surround sound system, get one. But if you can't, you should be more than happy with the built-in Bowers & Wilkins sound system's sound quality.
AUDIBLE NOISE
The projector's cooling system is noticeable, not just when the audio is quiet. Ordinarily, this would not be an issue since fan noise is usually just background white noise; however, the fans on this projector have something of a rhythm. The fans wind up and then slow down in a repeating pattern. It's a low, annoying sound that is more noticeable than I expected.
SUMMARY
For $3,499, the Formovie Theater is ideal if you seek the highest image quality in this Ultra-Short-Throw projector class. The Formovie Theater's video and audio feature sets are the most comprehensive I've seen at this price point. The images this Ultra-Short-Throw projector produces are beautiful in dark rooms and rooms where users don't have total control over ambient light sources. As you can see in the pictures below, the images the Formovie displays on the screen look great!
I will admit that my expectations for the performance of this projector were higher because of all the praise it has garnered over the last year and Formovie's picture quality lived up to the hype. I was satisfied with this projector's 2,800-lumen brightness rating, color, and contrast performance. The Formovie Theater can replace the living room TV.
When it comes to sound performance, the benefits of a partnership with Bowers & Wilkins are clear from the first time you turn up the volume on Mad Max: Fury Road or any of the new Star Wars movies. Sound is distortion-free, even at high volumes. It matched many soundbars I've heard. The dialogue is not lost in the rest of the movie's sounds, so I never had to back up to hear something I missed or turn on closed captioning. The new Netflix show Wednesday has been one of those shows where I'm constantly missing critical dialog from Jenna Ortega's Wednesday character. On the Formovie, there's not a muffled word. The Formovie's soundstage is also excellent at filling the space around me with sound. My best results were when I turned the Formovie's Dolby Atmos mode on, and turned off all other audio signal processing.
Does the projector have the bass performance of a subwoofer? No. It's not a subwoofer. Compared to many other Laser TV projectors I've reviewed, the Formovie Theater's sound performance is the best I've experienced. If you want bigger sound, use the projector's eARC capability to pass the Dolby Atomos signals from the projector to an external surround sound system.
Not everything was as good as I expected it to be. For example, the detail on this projector is softer than I like. Also, I had a problem with chromatic aberrations that would happen intermittently and then disappear once the projector warmed up. Almost every projector typically improves performance with a little warm-up, but I'm not talking about that. I'm in southern California, not in the Canadian Tundra. I should get a watchable distortion-free image with sharper focus from startup, especially on a Laser TV product at this price.
Wi-Fi connectivity is a problem. The Formovie will lose sight of the router. Restart the projector, and it may connect again, or it may not. Unplug the projector, reboot, and magically Wi-Fi connectivity is back until it disappears again. Who cares if the projector has Wi-Fi 6 support if the thing keeps losing sight of my router?
I love that the Formovie Theater uses Android TV 11 as the projector's operating system. Android 11 provides projector access to almost every app in the Android TV app store, except for Netflix. The Google Assistant integration is fantastic. However, Formovie engineers still need to fully integrate Android TV 11 with the projector. Let me give you a few examples. Any devices plugged into the projector's HDMI ports must use an additional layer of menus to get to the Android TV menus. Also, rather than putting shortcuts commonly found on other ultra-short-throw projector remotes, Formovie has created a button for another visually different menu for shortcuts to Inputs, Settings, Keystone, and Focus. That's three different menu systems used on this projector, depending on what you need to do.
Also, the projector remote is just a Bluetooth remote with no IR functionality.
These things are little irritations, except for Focus and Wi-Fi issues, but they show this projector needs some improvements.
CONCLUSION
The Formovie Theater produces impressive images. The projector was incredibly well-tuned in all modes, including the preset modes for non-HDR or Dolby Vision content. Each built-in preset provides well-thought-out ideas of what most people think is a great picture. If you want highly over-saturated colors like a 2014 Samsung LCD TV, the VIVID mode gives you that. MOVIE and CHILD modes are incredibly well-balanced in both SDR and HDR. The Dolby Vision modes are well-balanced with color, brightness, and black levels, which can be stunning.
The Formovie Theater looks excellent and sounds fantastic, but it's also buggy. It has problems that Formovie has had quite a while to fix, and they have not.
If you have three grand burning a hole in your pocket and all you care about is getting the best-looking and best-sounding DLP laser TV, and you don't care about all these little and, not so little irritations, then this might be the projector for you. I know it has a warranty, but it's only one year, and then you are on your own.
Things change fast in this business, and there will always be the next big thing right around the corner, so you will have to balance the risks versus the rewards for yourself.
Formovie has launched its latest flagship model, the Formovie Theater Premium 4K Laser TV, designed to push the boundaries of home entertainment.
PROS
Hands down, the best out-of-the-box picture quality of any DLP UST projector
Fantastic color performance with 107% of the BT.2020 color gamut
Best black-level performance of any current DLP UST projector
Bower & Wilkins sound is the best on a Laser TV I've heard to date
Built-in Android TV 11 is 95% integrated
The Formovie is a physically good-looking projector
Supports Dolby Vision, HDR10, and even great-looking SDR and HD content
Support Wi-Fi 6
Built-in Far Field microphone
Google Assistant
CONS
Only a one (1) year warranty
Wi-Fi performance has issues-crippling features like
Wi-Fi 6
All connected Android TV 11 features
The focus is soft, especially on larger screens
The projector displayed some chromatic aberration at startup, but it cleared up
The cooling fans noise is irritating
Remote controls and menu access would randomly freeze or slow down.
No IR functionality
No native Netflix application
No 3D
Not a complete integration of Android 11 but more of a hybrid menu system
